Hi All,

Have been reading "Cool Impossible" and having a read of these forums. My question is about the general principle of the shoes.

I have seen people ask questions about zero drop, and cushioning, and have seen that Eric is a fan of the Salomon shoes and Innov8 brand.

I am just starting to use my second pair of Hoka One One Stinsons which have a 6mm drop, but a meta rocker (meaning that the shoe is like a rocking horse) and are said to be like running on marshmellows. So they have a fair bit of wear left in them (about another 600km) and I can't afford to just buy another pair.

Noting that there are other shoes out there with a large cushioned sole, are these going to be ok to run in.  

My thoughts are that it is more about the technique than necessarily the shoe, but will these prevent me from executing proper technique?

Should I start now with a transition to a more zero drop shoe such as the Merrill or Innov8

I am not planning to do ultras, but would like to progress up to half marathons and maybe a marathon one day.  My main goal is to just have fun running and be able to run any distance I want to and feel like.

I run mainly road at the moment and do about 20km a week, but with the proper technique, this will soon increase.

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Hi Jeff,

Great post. From my perspective run health, tech, performance and longevity all point to having good foot strength and health - as you have read in TCI.

Therefore, I would spend a good amount of focus on developing good strength that will help you while using Hoka. Even though you might have good form, the pillow effect does eliminate some of the awareness and usage of your feet. 

You could also try using a more flexible shoe for shorter runs to help and use the Hoka for your long runs.

Stack height and the flexibility of the mid/outsole also needs to be a consideration with your foots ability to "work" naturally.

Hope this helps and let's keep going on this thread to help with your questions. 

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the feedback and all the info you are providing.  One of my questions was about the pillow effect of the shoes.  When I am looking at the Zero Drop shoes and what are the best ones to get, there are a plethora of recommended shoes.   From what I have seen there are the Altra (with quite a bit of cushioning) the Merrill (with a lot less cushioning) and everything in between.

My question would be, going from the Hoka's into zero drop, would it be better to go with something like the Altra with a lot of padding (noting that I am only really doing road running atm) or something like the Merrill with limited padding?

I am currently strengthening my foot with a slant board (doing 1 min on each foot for each exercise and 10 reps of the leg raises) slowly strengthening my legs and feet. I have my cadence up to 170 atm, which is beginning to feel comfortable, so now looking to start my transition to a zero drop shoe....

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Great question here. Since you do have the Hoka's and are doing the strength training, I would suggest you look at one of the more minimal Altra road shoes. So you have the Hoka's for your longer runs and use the Altras for shorter/faster runs AND to continue to help strengthen your feet and legs.

So, it would be a good approach to use both for different reasons. And once your feet and legs get stronger from slant board and the Altras, you can then decide is you still want to use Hoka's for longer runs or transition to less of a shoe.

The Altra will also help with your cadence.  And look for new cadence drills coming in Videos.

Thanks Eric for the reply. Will look to see where I can get some Altra shoes from locally. I have always said that the best shoe for you is the one that fits. Hopefully the Altras are a good fit.

Yeah, I would definitely try them on. My feet are very narrow, so Altra is just too wide for me, and why I like Salomon and Inov8.

If you cant find them locally, check Zappos or Running Warehouse, both have very easy return policies and quick delivery. 

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