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Comment by Jay Mijares on July 16, 2014 at 7:11pm

I haven't run further than marathon distance, but my current long distance trail shoe is the Altra Lone Peak 1.5.  It works out okay, though my foot slips around during the downhills.  I've used the B2R Trail Shoe for shorter distances and it works great!  I'll have to do more foot strengthening exercises before I'm ready to use my B2R Trail shoes for longer distances.  Eric is the B2R endurance/mountain shoe still in the design phase?  Or have you gotten to the prototype stage yet?  Can't wait to see that one!

Comment by Lori Enlow on July 14, 2014 at 1:30pm
I have had the opportunity to try the inoov8 trail roc 236 and the New Balance Zero v2 Minimus Trail. I like them both very much. The new balance have a little more cushion
Comment by Gniewomir Skrzysinski on July 14, 2014 at 6:32am

As I've mentioned earlier, would be great to have B2R endurance/mountain shoes, but my guess is that it is not going to happend in a one week ;) So which shoes (brand/model) would you recommend for this purporse?

Comment by Jay Mijares on July 12, 2014 at 6:58pm

Great discussion!  I did an endurance run in shoes as thick as the Hokas and have found that the reduced proprioception is really dangerous, even on non-technical trails.  And the thick shoes also make a minor leg length discrepancy due to alignment of my hips much worse!  Yeah, if a fast finish time during a 100 miler is what you want, these might do the trick, but just like Gniewomir said, in the long run the effect could be worse.  Think of the damage to the joints and muscles and bone.  I'd rather finish a before the cutoff and be able to run more races than rather than risk future injuries just to have a winning finishing time.

Comment by Lori Enlow on July 12, 2014 at 11:48am
Great discussion going on! I think you just nailed it Gniewomir!
Comment by Gniewomir Skrzysinski on July 12, 2014 at 10:37am

Thank you Coach for the replay. Yes, that's what I am affraid of too. People rarely look ahead, just want to have the results 'here and now'.

I am looking forward for those B2R long run shoes :)

Comment by Eric Orton on July 12, 2014 at 10:31am

Gniewomir - Hokas are all the rage here in the States, mostly age groupers, but I worried about the long term effects they will have.

As for B2R Trail Perf - there main purpose if for high level performance on shorter distances, so yes, you will most likely need more of a shoe for 50-100 miles.  Eventually B2R will have a line of non-split Endurance and mountain shoes to fill this purpose.

Comment by Gniewomir Skrzysinski on July 12, 2014 at 10:22am

This year, in Hungarian UltrAspire Trail 100 I saw several runners with Hoka shoes. It was very first time seeing such a shoes! I couldn't believe seeing that :)  Those shoes were ginormous almost like a horse hoof with thick sole.

Then we have minimalist/natural runnig shoes like  B2R trail, which are completly different then Hoka f.e. I was thinking, if those B2R are 'enough' for such a long distance races like Hardrock 100. Do we need a bit more cushioning on 80 or more miles long, trial races or we don't?

Comment by Eric Orton on July 12, 2014 at 9:09am
Well he still took second. But ouch.
Comment by Lori Enlow on July 12, 2014 at 7:21am
I see it, wow!

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